“He’s talking about life being in free fall”, says Koenig, “it’s harsh”. Which is a rare and alternative interpretation of the track, given that it is usually interpreted as being about liberty and freedom.

The two also go on to talk about Vampire Weekend's attempts at covering Petty's work, and whether or not Petty could be described as 'frat rock'.

You can listen to the radio show here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/station/tribute-to-tom-petty/idra.1294040396